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Post by lioncub on Jun 2, 2018 13:32:06 GMT 1
I for one will be very sad if we lose some of the key players in our retained list as Mr P suggests will be the case. Think we need to hold on to the likes of Hatfield, Purver and Rooney. Will be sad if we lose Ash Palmer to another club. Can’t wait for all this to be settled so we know what we are starting the season with. Would also like to know the price of the season tickets? . I hope GAFC isn’t going to charge its loyal fans the same as last NL season for watching NLN.
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kgw96
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Post by kgw96 on Jun 2, 2018 15:31:22 GMT 1
From the twittersphere; Jake rumoured to be signing for Salford, whilst clubs are also queuing up to sign Reece Thompson
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Post by simonwintle on Jun 2, 2018 18:49:45 GMT 1
The retained list looks great on paper. But realistically does anyone really believe that they will all stay? I for one don't. My only hope is that Will (Great job at woodhouse grove) and Alex (Purver not Harley Race) stay. Hopefully we will command a decent fee/recoup for Dale and Reece and Harley Race. Also I hope it isn't true about Ash. 2nd Captain for a lot of the season, and a bit of loyalty would be nice.
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Post by troll on Jun 2, 2018 20:48:00 GMT 1
Of those released East always injured, Atkinson regularly injured, Wesolowski useless on the rare occasions he's not injured. Lenighan an unsavoury waste of space, Hurst had 2 decent games in 18 months, and Haworth wasn't even trusted by the bloke who brought him in.
Understandable Danny Lowe wanting to move on, guess he's got to consider his future as he ages in football terms.
Generally happy on the retained side, though Harvey can go for me, both by association and performances, and Molyneux can stay if he plays like last pre season. I think a Southwell / Liburd / Thompson combination will score hatfuls, but I could see the first two (both on full time contracts?) being moved on.
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Post by guiseleyguile on Jun 2, 2018 22:00:38 GMT 1
Cannot understand why the club has issued a retained list when it appears a lot will soon be moving - do they know the meaning of retained ?? Look forward to seeing a list endorsed by messrs Bignot et al - seems to me the list currently issued is one to fulfil some of the impatience perceived by some fans.
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Post by Nik on Jun 2, 2018 23:04:00 GMT 1
I thought the release was clear enough. The retained list is an official thing that goes in to the authorities to tell them who of your out-of-contract players you intend to offer new terms to, right?
And the article on the site told us who was already under contract for next season?
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Post by adambrid on Jun 2, 2018 23:17:11 GMT 1
Surprised to see Callum McFadzean has left the club, at times he was a vital part for us last season will be interesting to see where his next move is. Sad to see two long servers in Jake and Danny Lowe leave the club too, even though it was all but confirmed these lads will be missed at Nethermoor with tremendous service over the last few years. I think that Andy and Elliot showed glimpses of what they can offer us last season and E.Green played very well the season before before picking up his nasty injury. I always thought Danny East was a good addition too but injuries have curtailed his career here unfortunately, the same situation with James Wesolowski, he couldn't string two games together. Marcus, Rob and Darren were three solid defenders who again were vital to us over the past few years. Kevan had a better season under Lockwood and has struggled to nail down a place this season with everything that went on with him being a part time player, lovely guy! Happy with what we have kept too, if we manage to keep hold of them the strike force could be lethal with Hatfield and Purver feeding in from midfield. Rooney and Molyneux will also be crucial to our creativity and despite the comments above I quite like Harvey, likes a tackle and is calm on the ball. All the best to everyone who has left the club and thank you for the efforts. Let's hope for a much happier and successful season ahead. Reaction: www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/16265233.Guiseley_release_14_in_mass_clear_out/?ref=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter chadwickmedia.wordpress.com/2018/06/02/guiseley-afc-release-fourteen-players/ AB
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Post by adambrid on Jun 2, 2018 23:18:52 GMT 1
I thought the release was clear enough. The retained list is an official thing that goes in to the authorities to tell them who of your out-of-contract players you intend to offer new terms to, right? And the article on the site told us who was already under contract for next season? That's right nik, this list has to be submitted to the league before 31st May. In the next few days the Premier League will publicise a list of all players released from their member clubs, unlikely the National League will do the same though! AB
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Post by Nik on Jun 2, 2018 23:30:47 GMT 1
I thought the release was clear enough. The retained list is an official thing that goes in to the authorities to tell them who of your out-of-contract players you intend to offer new terms to, right? And the article on the site told us who was already under contract for next season? That's right nik, this list has to be submitted to the league before 31st May. In the next few days the Premier League will publicise a list of all players released from their member clubs, unlikely the National League will do the same though! AB Yep. So, to be clear, because people are getting mixed up I think, even the T&A writer - the article doesn’t include our retained list. We’ve said who’s been released (ie not retained) and who was already contracted for next season by our previous managers. The new managers can’t decide whether to retain the contracted players or not, only whether they rate them or want rid of them if possible. It seems like they weren’t too interested in most of the lads they had a choice over!
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Post by ivor on Jun 2, 2018 23:42:27 GMT 1
a less polite phrase than 'retained list' which might be appropriate in one or two cases is 'Still lumbered with', but there are enough good players on the retained list to form a nucleus of a good team if we can, well, retain them.
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Post by otleybard on Jun 3, 2018 0:22:08 GMT 1
Surprised to see Callum McFadzean has left the club, at times he was a vital part for us last season will be interesting to see where his next move is. Sad to see two long servers in Jake and Danny Lowe leave the club too, even though it was all but confirmed these lads will be missed at Nethermoor with tremendous service over the last few years. I think that Andy and Elliot showed glimpses of what they can offer us last season and E.Green played very well the season before before picking up his nasty injury. I always thought Danny East was a good addition too but injuries have curtailed his career here unfortunately, the same situation with James Wesolowski, he couldn't string two games together. Marcus, Rob and Darren were three solid defenders who again were vital to us over the past few years. Kevan had a better season under Lockwood and has struggled to nail down a place this season with everything that went on with him being a part time player, lovely guy! Happy with what we have kept too, if we manage to keep hold of them the strike force could be lethal with Hatfield and Purver feeding in from midfield. Rooney and Molyneux will also be crucial to our creativity and despite the comments above I quite like Harvey, likes a tackle and is calm on the ball. Be honest, AB, you'd be happiest with a squad of 50...
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Post by tugger18 on Jun 3, 2018 8:30:00 GMT 1
Mixed feelings about who’s going and who’s allegedly staying. Thought we should have kept Marcus Williams and got Conner back. As for Molyneux don’t understand that one Harvey undecided but the rest if we keep them look good with the additions of Ash and I hope we can get another season from Kayode. Massive rebuilding program for the club once again good luck to everyone concerned in getting stability back to the club for the forth coming season. Onwards and upwards.
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Post by steve on Jun 3, 2018 9:32:02 GMT 1
Imo the crux of the matter is money. If rumours are true several of the contracted players are on very decent National League wages with presumably no contracted wage reduction following relegation.
How ever much we as fans would want some of them to stay based on ability, passion, will to win or any other criteria we simply can't afford them under the new budget. Worst case scenario we could see some leave the club with Guiseley still paying a percentage of their wages just to free up enough funds to build a big enough squad to take part next season. I can only imagine the amount of money Steve Parkin has put in over recent seasons and especially last season. Lets be honest, has that huge investment paid dividends? He has been badly let down by those he trusted to invest those funds and develop our club.
Get back to basics and build on the pitch with a direct correlation to building income off the pitch. If not you only have to look at Eastleigh to see what the future will hold.
Huge credit to Steve and everyone else who run the club for sticking with it as this last year must have been tough to take and enthusiasm well and truly dented.
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Post by Nik on Jun 3, 2018 11:42:21 GMT 1
As for Molyneux don’t understand that one Harvey undecided As I say, if they’re already contracted (which the piece on the website says they are) then there’s nothing to understand. Locky or Cox must have signed these guys to mutiple year deals - it doesn’t give us any insight into what the new management think about them.
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Post by deejayrobertson on Jun 3, 2018 14:48:47 GMT 1
We need money to fund the squad and we have saleable assets. It’s probably not unreasonable to think that at least some of those assets consider it’s not beneficial to them to be playing in the North next year (Some of them would be right to think this. Some would be misguided.)
So it is reasonable to think we may have to sell some of those assets in order to fund the greater whole. But Someone mentioned earlier on this timeline about whether Steve Parkins investment has paid dividends, the suggestion being that he was expecting it to. I’m not certain it was ever going to, relegation or not. I’m not certain that’s what he’s in it for. He’s been pumping money into this club for ages now, and he could’ve stopped doing that at any time because he’s not seeing that money again and he knows it and he’s not that daft.
So why would he walk away completely now, necessitating usto sell everything that isn’t nailed down? Is it just possible (and understandable) that we’re all just so doom-laden by the past year that we’re expecting the worst all the time now?
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