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Post by ivor on Apr 6, 2024 20:40:17 GMT 1
I thought a poor game (largely due to the wind) I thought we were very poor. As Rallyman says, hard to remember their Keeper making a save. Whilst I thought they wanted it more, first to every challenge, understood how to play in the wind etc There was no new-manager bounce Didn’t look like there was a whole lot of new energy. Personally, I didn’t clap at Denton’s substitution but admittedly didn’t think he offered anything whilst he was playing. His legs are gone and should be used as a “last 15” substitute I hope I’m wrong but can’t help thinking we are limping to the end of the season Very very disappointed Agree his legs have gone, Andy, and I am not trying to change anyone's opinion of him as a player - I happen to think that he has qualities to offset the lack of pace, but I accept that others differ. What I don't get is the hostility. None of the midfield or forwards played well today and that includes our 2 most consistent players this season, Prince and Kallan. There seems to have been a loss of confidence. With play-offs gone and the pressure off I hope we can put in some performances to give us something to cheer about now. |
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Post by rallyman on Apr 6, 2024 21:40:32 GMT 1
Agree with others that the players in general were below par but the treatment Denton got at being subd as poor.
Remember, most times Rylands doubled up on Denton, so winning header under that pressure was good play.
Think today's performance was because the team played poorly and Denton was only one member of that team.
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Post by roguewon on Apr 6, 2024 21:58:02 GMT 1
The perfomance wasnt great. Although i personally dont think starting Tom Denton helps our style of play, jerring isnt fair. I was stood near those who did it. Its a group who ive never seen before the last few weeks and seem to be middle aged men who cant handle alcohol and have a poor understanding of the game....Not folk id waste my time over
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Post by adambrid on Apr 6, 2024 23:06:22 GMT 1
Not the best of games today as both sides struggled to create chances but it was the visitors who took the points to clinch a play off spot whilst all but ending our hopes of getting one.
The first half saw both sides create very little, in fact there was next to nothing other than Ekpolo seeing a shot blocked.
We did have a few corners but failed to do anything with them, the strong wind really stopped both teams in their tracks today.
The second half followed a similar pattern but we had Battersby to thank for keeping us in the game.
He made two stunning saves on the line to keep the visitors out before Marietta made a crucial last ditch block to preserve the clean sheet.
It didn’t last for long though when a Rylands forward looked to have scuffed a shot but it teed up Touray perfectly and slammed the ball into the top corner.
Sadly Aiden Walker had to be withdrawn early after a knock to his shoulder, hopefully it’s nothing too serious and he is back out on the pitch soon, he has been a good addition to the side.
Despite a number of changes we just couldn’t find a way through the stingy away defence which left Cockerline to double the lead in injury time.
That brought to an end a game of few chances.
We move on to Tuesday night’s clash with Worksop Town at Nethermoor.
Come on Guiseley!
AB
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Post by bigj on Apr 6, 2024 23:12:13 GMT 1
Denton has scored and made plenty of golas this season so I think its unfair to sigle him out but that said you can't play him and Kallan Murphy in the same line up as they are just too similar imo. One player I would have taken off early doors is Tom Pratt who contributed very little in my view, whether that was because of the role he was being asked to play I don't know but Rylands left flank was wide open and not exploited until Michael Afuye switched flanks late on. Dismal display all round today and with the wind at our backs we should have been shooting at every opportunity in the first half but only managed a single shot on target.
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Post by GAFC 1909 on Apr 7, 2024 0:03:05 GMT 1
Horrible game today. Not only a comfortable loss but also a thoroughly boring game where the Guiseley fans had absolutely nothing to cheer. I don't recall a single shot on target other than perhaps one very routine catch. One of the worst performances of the season.
Probably sound like a broken record but the board were gambling that booting Andy Welsh and bringing in Liam Tongue for the last 5 game would result in a better points return. I will not be in any way judging Liam on the results in the final 5 games (he is in a lose/lose situation in my opinion) but I absolutely will be judging/pointing the finger of blame at the board when we fail to make playoffs. They decided to boot Danny Ellis, a club legend who had a great star to his managerial career with us, only to replace him with Paul Phillips who was an unmitigated disaster. They then decided to boot Andy Welsh who had brought us to within touching distance of the playoffs and brought back entertaining football with (sorry, lets face it) an interim manager who has virtually no managerial experience in the hope that he performs a miracle and wins the majority of the last 5 games (again, absolutely no criticism of Liam even if he loses all 5 games). The board are 100% to blame for this mess. Utterly clueless.
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Post by asupporter on Apr 7, 2024 10:28:37 GMT 1
The comments above are a fair reflection of yesterday's match. Their front 4 were superior to our front 4 and that's what ultimately won them the game. It was a further decline in the level of our performance and yet another home defeat. A 4-3-3 formation with Gabs, Kallan and A N Other might have been preferable with Prince playing as the advanced midfielder (even though, he wasn't at his best yesterday, he has played very well this season for the most part) rather than 4-2-3-1, which left us wide open at times. We missed Leigh Whelan massively and the return of Tom Pratt doesn't seem to be having the desired effect. I'm not sure what has happened with Andy Welsh (although, suspect that some egos might have been involved in the parting of his company) but under his leadership, I have enjoyed more games this season than I had in the past few seasons combined. They have been some real entertaining performances whilst he was at the wheel but something clearly has happened to lead to his departure, which I don't think is going to improve our prospects for the end of this season sadly. I would like to see some stability in management and players with a longer term vision for the club to improve our fortunes but that doesn't to be the way at the present time unfortunately.
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Post by MrP on Apr 7, 2024 10:57:28 GMT 1
I thought a poor game (largely due to the wind) I thought we were very poor. As Rallyman says, hard to remember their Keeper making a save. Whilst I thought they wanted it more, first to every challenge, understood how to play in the wind etc There was no new-manager bounce Didn’t look like there was a whole lot of new energy. Personally, I didn’t clap at Denton’s substitution but admittedly didn’t think he offered anything whilst he was playing. His legs are gone and should be used as a “last 15” substitute I hope I’m wrong but can’t help thinking we are limping to the end of the season Very very disappointed Agree his legs have gone, Andy, and I am not trying to change anyone's opinion of him as a player - I happen to think that he has qualities to offset the lack of pace, but I accept that others differ. What I don't get is the hostility. None of the midfield or forwards played well today and that includes our 2 most consistent players this season, Prince and Kallan. There seems to have been a loss of confidence. With play-offs gone and the pressure off I hope we can put in some performances to give us something to cheer about now. Hi Ivor, you are absolutely correct that folks’ ire could have been directed at any number of players and that Dents is an easy target. In my opinion the team was set up wrong for the conditions (which were known before kick-off). Kallan is no LW. Tom Pratt is no RW. And when we play Dents we invariably aim balls to his head looking for flicks. Unfortunately the wind meant this was almost impossible. Prince was his usual industrious self but his passing was way off. As I said previously, I think Prince was at his best when played further forward with Whelan/Marriet/Tongue behind him. The problem is further forward, we don’t seem to know our best front 3. I thought Jameel, RB and Afuye deserved credit. The rest not so much. It was a very very disappointing performance and as we know disappointing finishes to the season often set the tone for the next season |
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Post by rallyman on Apr 7, 2024 13:15:15 GMT 1
Time for us to start playing more relaxed, starting with Worksop on Tuesday night. Yes technically we are not mathmatically out of play-offs, but we rely on so many teams above us now losing games that realistically we are playing in the NPL next season and I think most accept that and probably did before yesterday bad result.
Problem for me is that with one new manager and others probably moving on before next season, will Liam be prepared to change the team & mix things up when he could be one leaving ? Good time to try out others in remaining 4 games if a manager was thinking about who should be here next season. But it will probably be all change again with a new man at the helm, (or majority moving on anyway).
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Post by adambrid on Apr 7, 2024 16:18:07 GMT 1
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Post by matt on Apr 8, 2024 13:34:10 GMT 1
I thought we were the better team first half, they were the second half. After Denton was taken off they dominated. Think those who cheered Denton being subbed are being unnecessarily unkind. He was part of everything good we did today and we were much worse without him. The season’s dead and I guess he won’t stay, but we can do better than jeering our own like that. To bang a drum I’ve banged often, 442 works best if your two in midfield are exceptional and you can use the width - not sure Mariette is the man for that, Whelan was a big miss, and our poor recruitment of wingers was laid bare too really. The old fashioned 'winger' seems to be disappearing from football nowadays. Not sure why. You can't beat two pacy wingers who can take people on and put decent crosses into the box. |
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Post by ivor on Apr 8, 2024 13:56:13 GMT 1
I thought we were the better team first half, they were the second half. After Denton was taken off they dominated. Think those who cheered Denton being subbed are being unnecessarily unkind. He was part of everything good we did today and we were much worse without him. The season’s dead and I guess he won’t stay, but we can do better than jeering our own like that. To bang a drum I’ve banged often, 442 works best if your two in midfield are exceptional and you can use the width - not sure Mariette is the man for that, Whelan was a big miss, and our poor recruitment of wingers was laid bare too really. The old fashioned 'winger' seems to be disappearing from football nowadays. Not sure why. You can't beat two pacy wingers who can take people on and put decent crosses into the box. Andy Welsh has played 2 wingers in many matches and has been criticised for it, Matt! |
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Post by Nik on Apr 8, 2024 15:07:30 GMT 1
I thought we were the better team first half, they were the second half. After Denton was taken off they dominated. Think those who cheered Denton being subbed are being unnecessarily unkind. He was part of everything good we did today and we were much worse without him. The season’s dead and I guess he won’t stay, but we can do better than jeering our own like that. To bang a drum I’ve banged often, 442 works best if your two in midfield are exceptional and you can use the width - not sure Mariette is the man for that, Whelan was a big miss, and our poor recruitment of wingers was laid bare too really. The old fashioned 'winger' seems to be disappearing from football nowadays. Not sure why. You can't beat two pacy wingers who can take people on and put decent crosses into the box. I know what you mean although I’m all in favour of the goalscoring all action wide forward. OJ and Anthony Dudley are the best two I’ve seen do it for Guiseley. But for a while now we’ve either played strikers out wide and seen them neither beat a man nor score a goal, or we’ve had wingers who can beat a man but really don’t know how to play the team game. |
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Post by latecomer on Apr 8, 2024 15:23:19 GMT 1
He did like 2 wingers . He liked wingers so much though there were 3 of them as substitutes at half time against warrington! Saying that under Andy we played some good football and it has been the best season for sometime . Where did it go wrong? Did he ask the board for more players ( wingers maybe?)
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Post by adambrid on Apr 8, 2024 17:53:45 GMT 1
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