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Post by colin19 on Nov 20, 2022 13:43:10 GMT 1
I’m also sure that a blanket ban is not what Nik was suggesting.
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Post by mike25 on Nov 20, 2022 14:10:28 GMT 1
On the actual match, I thought we were much improved from last week and we were definitely aided by the return of Ross Daly. I thought we edged the first half and looked to be building momentum at the start of the second before all the unpleasantness. Afterwards I thought we, quite understandably, completely lost focus and ironically Warrington looked a lot better and we looked worse once they went down to ten. I cannot really comment on their second red, which they seem very annoyed by on social media, as I was at the opposite end but frankly if you go in like that on a keeper as he clearly did you’re always going to leave yourself vulnerable.
Regarding the incidents obviously those responsible should be nowhere near a match ever again and reported to the police. I’ve not seen much mentioned about the Warrington ‘fan’ (presumably) who retaliated with violence, who surely should be similarly reprimanded.
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Post by Nik on Nov 20, 2022 14:51:26 GMT 1
So sick of these idiots trashing our club’s reputation. If this fool and his friends travelled on the coach they’ll be known to us and should be banned from that and Nethermoor for life. to say…any of the younger generation who were on the coach to be banned for “life” is just wrong Thankfully nobody did say that. I’m saying if they were on the coach then it won’t be hard to identify them, and that we shouldn’t be taking people who cause trouble on the bus. |
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Post by MrP on Nov 20, 2022 18:16:33 GMT 1
If the guy who did this was on the official
Supporters Club then it shouldn’t be too difficult to identify culprit. Unfortunately, if he did travel with the Supporters Club then the optics look terrible on our club. There are only losers in this sorry tale
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Post by mrsann on Nov 20, 2022 19:59:48 GMT 1
Wasn't at the match yesterday but listened to the radio broadcast,excellent as always fellas and sounds as if the performance was much improved.
There has always been banter usually good natured between opposition goal keepers and fans,but the action of this mindless idiot beggars belief and is in no one's book a prank.
What so called supporters who behave badly fail to realise is a clubs reputation is built and hard fought over a number of years and can be destroyed in an instant taking again years to restore,and on that reputation lies their acceptance and in some ways safety at away grounds.
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Post by MrP on Nov 20, 2022 20:29:57 GMT 1
So sick of these idiots trashing our club’s reputation. If this fool and his friends travelled on the coach they’ll be known to us and should be banned from that and Nethermoor for life. I completely disagree with absolutely everything the kid has done. I sat on the coach and was in distance with him, as were 7-8 other lads.. I think to say his friends or any of the younger generation who were on the coach to be banned for “life” is just wrong. The person who committed the crime will be banned. I’ve never gone to the footie and caused trouble or thought about urinating in a keepers bottle. Me and my mates go to cheer on the lads and have a good day out. Totally unjust to call for everyone to be banned. Sounds like you know who the person was. It would be wise to let authorities know Looking at the press across this country and beyond a youthful prank has become viral |
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Post by deejayrobertson on Nov 20, 2022 20:30:35 GMT 1
I’m so, so angry about this - whatever the exact circumstances (and I’ve now heard FOUR variations of the event) it’s another cavalcade of idiocy that brings us into disrepute again.
It doesn’t take much these days to get a reputation, and the very last thing we as a club need is to be tarred with a bad one.
Of course people who were on the bus yesterday know who he is, he didn’t act in isolation, someone filmed him for goodness sake. Anyone protecting him is every bit as culpable. I don’t want blanket bans either so do the decent thing, point him out, and make sure he never travels with us again - he’s not welcome.
We should be giddy with delight with an away win at difficult opponents - instead this tool has spoiled it for all of us.
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Post by bigj on Nov 20, 2022 20:56:38 GMT 1
Like dejay says he didn't act in isolation and so even if he is banned we run the risk of his mates doing domething equally stupid in the future. We supporters don't travel to away games to police these idiots so I think a blanket ban is totally appropriate, if only to reduce the risk of a repeat offence.
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Post by MrP on Nov 20, 2022 21:07:19 GMT 1
I’m so, so angry about this - whatever the exact circumstances (and I’ve now heard FOUR variations of the event) it’s another cavalcade of idiocy that brings us into disrepute again. It doesn’t take much these days to get a reputation, and the very last thing we as a club need is to be tarred with a bad one. Of course people who were on the bus yesterday know who he is, he didn’t act in isolation, someone filmed him for goodness sake. Anyone protecting him is every bit as culpable. I don’t want blanket bans either so do the decent thing, point him out, and make sure he never travels with us again - he’s not welcome. We should be giddy with delight with an away win at difficult opponents - instead this tool has spoiled it for all of us. Well said DJ. The 2 obvious culprits are the guy with obvious trainers and his mate who filmed and clearly there are many folk who know who they are if they travelled on the Supporters Bus. According to Mrs P, this clip has now been seen several million times so anyone who thinks this isn’t a major issue for the club needs to get real. We are a NPL club on the way down. We do not need this…. It turns some of us off - For me, GAFC are a 2nd club based on living in Guiseley when actually it would be cheaper and perhaps more enjoyable to go watch BCFC - I say this having held season ticket for >10 years….. |
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Post by adambrid on Nov 20, 2022 21:46:28 GMT 1
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Post by tonyhaz on Nov 20, 2022 22:21:38 GMT 1
Given the profile generated today I think the supposition needs to end. We need to rely on the club, supporters club, WTFC and any other interested authorities to investigate and reach the appropriate conclusion.
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Post by guiseley1 on Nov 21, 2022 0:35:37 GMT 1
I completely agree that the actions of the individuals concerned are unacceptable and I think we should, and having read the statement earlier, I also believe that we will punish them as far as we are able.
Obviously the sanctions a football club can impose are limited. If appropriate I would imagine that the police will take action too.
I’m gutted reading social media and seeing our clubs reputation being slated and often so unfairly.
The events yesterday were out of order but, as might be expected, social media has included some remarkably stupid comments. We have been told that we should hand the the 3 points back to Warrington 🙄, criticised for the fact that our CCTV wasn’t working (we were away ffs), and even had supporters of other clubs suggesting that respected volunteers (I won’t name them) from our club were the perpetrators (which is simply wrong, libellous, and a really stupid statement for anyone to make publicly given the potential consequences).
I’m afraid I have some questions that might seem unpopular.
First where is the footage of the incident? I’m sure a brilliant home goal would have been captured and played out by now. There is a reason that Thompson was sent off. There was also a Warrington fan who struck the alleged perpetrator - this also needs investigation.
Without footage so much of the total picture of this incident remains conjecture. What’s worse, from posts that I’ve seen today their media team are pleased with the number of ‘hits’ their tweet achieved - which feels utterly inappropriate to me. The priority should be the investigation into the facts of the matter and the release of footage needed to clarify what actually happened. If there is none ‘available’ one wonders why.
Secondly surely Warrington have responsibility for ensuring the safety of players on the field at their stadium? Stewarding must be sufficient to prevent spectators repeatedly entering the field of play. Anybody coming onto the pitch should have been spotted and ejected. I don’t condone what happened - however I’d be deeply disappointed if we had allowed this incident to escalate at Nethermoor.
The actions of the so called supporters yesterday were unacceptable and an embarrassment to themselves and our club. But in my view this isn’t a simple case of Guiseley as perpetrators and Warrington the victims.
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Post by deejayrobertson on Nov 21, 2022 1:04:03 GMT 1
First where is the footage of the incident? I’m sure a brilliant home goal would have been captured and played out by now. There is a reason that Thompson was sent off. There was also a Warrington fan who struck the alleged perpetrator - this also needs investigation. Without footage so much of the total picture of this incident remains conjecture. What’s worse, from posts that I’ve seen today their media team are pleased with the number of ‘hits’ their tweet achieved - which feels utterly inappropriate to me. The priority should be the investigation into the facts of the matter and the release of footage needed to clarify what actually happened. If there is none ‘available’ one wonders why. Secondly surely Warrington have responsibility for ensuring the safety of players on the field at their stadium? Stewarding must be sufficient to prevent spectators repeatedly entering the field of play. Anybody coming onto the pitch should have been spotted and ejected. I don’t condone what happened - however I’d be deeply disappointed if we had allowed this incident to escalate at Nethermoor. And let’s face it social media is awash with bad takes and stupidity at the best of times. As for clear footage I wouldn’t pin any hopes on that. it is often hard to come by from away clubs this season, a lot of them seem unwilling to share it, which is why we’ve seen less away highlights this season. I still haven’t heard back from several clubs and, Belper didn’t even bother filming our game there. A lot of clubs (including I suspect Warrington) use Veo cameras, automated cameras programmed to follow the ball, which in this case would mean it would ignore the incident entirely. Not maliciously, they are just programmed that way. I may be wrong and there may be a clear picture of it, in which case I hope it’s being shared at least privately with our club but I doubt it. Which means, as you say, this will largely remain conjecture. I doubt we’ll ever get the exact truth. And Warringtons media got their version out first, and that’s what’s gone viral, so some will assume that’s the truth, even if it isn’t. |
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Post by matt on Nov 21, 2022 15:07:13 GMT 1
If this individual was on the supporters bus, get them named and shamed if it hasn't already happened. Also name and shame whoever filmed it. If he is known to any Guiseley supporter, get them named.
I've never seen anything as disgraceful as this. We should withdraw from the competition or rightly be kicked out, if there's any association with the club.
You can't blame the stewarding. Where were our stewards when that idiot ran across the field at Nethermoor a few games back? A small section of those supporters (and I'm NOT linking the two incidents) have no interest in whats happening on the field. Ridiculously goading away supporters, even after matches.
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Post by plasticman on Nov 21, 2022 19:04:30 GMT 1
You can't blame the stewarding. Where were our stewards when that idiot ran across the field at Nethermoor a few games back? In defence of our stewards, they tracked him down and he was ejected from the ground. |
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