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Post by MrP on Nov 12, 2023 22:18:51 GMT 1
What a game!
Can’t remember a Saturday at Nethermoor I’m enjoyed as much for many years
So many things to acknowledge
Workington were good and the way they played (and continued to play despite being down) is to be praised.
Guiseley were good (Particularly in the first half) - I had friends visiting for the first and second times this season who were impressed by our play (and finally believed my “we’ve got a good squad this year”)
Gabby was amazing- I genuinely believe he could have had 2 or 3 match balls yesterday
Hard to think of anyone who didn’t perform. - For me, special mentions to Battersby, CMW, Prince, Pratt, Jordi
But perhaps the best bit , the clubhouse afterwards - the smiles, the laughter, the hope
Long may it continue
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Post by rallyman on Nov 13, 2023 11:17:17 GMT 1
Got to agree great game of football & good entertainment for any neutrals, like my mate & his two kids who turned up & really enjoyed it. Told him he needs to come again soon as his first game was a 6 goaler (although we lost) & Sat was seven goal thriller, so hoping for eight goals next time  Rallyman |
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Post by stevie on Nov 13, 2023 11:50:35 GMT 1
That was the most enjoyable match I've watched at Nethermoor in some time - we could easily have scored more, some great attacking play and not an aimless long ball in sight. It should have been more comfortable than it was, but credit to Workington for playing their part. And credit to Andy Welsh for the tactical tweak by bringing on Danny Devine when the match was threatening to get away from us after the third Workington equaliser - he shored up the midfield, bringing some composure and physicality which helped up wrestle back control of the match.
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Post by adambrid on Nov 13, 2023 18:03:09 GMT 1
Ooops, thanks for that Colin! AB |
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Post by adambrid on Nov 13, 2023 18:22:35 GMT 1
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Post by andyhaines on Nov 14, 2023 9:02:10 GMT 1
Does anyone know where Gabriel Johnson went after he left us the first time? I've look all over online and he doesn't seem to have been playing football at any level from what I can see (although non-league can be tricky to fathom). I was wondering if he'd stepped away from football altogether for a couple of years. If so, it's done him good because he's a different player now!
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Post by matt on Nov 14, 2023 15:00:09 GMT 1
Being a bit of a misery, not sure I enjoyed the game as much as others, Frustrating that every time we went ahead we looked like conceding! Midfield seemed to go missing defensively second half. But that seemed to be due to the fact that we weren't sitting back on the lead. Entertaining though for the most part.
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Post by andyhaines on Nov 14, 2023 15:49:35 GMT 1
Being a bit of a misery, not sure I enjoyed the game as much as others, Frustrating that every time we went ahead we looked like conceding! Midfield seemed to go missing defensively second half. But that seemed to be due to the fact that we weren't sitting back on the lead. Entertaining though for the most part. I think a bit of it was how far up the pitch the wingers were playing. I notice a lot of times where there was a good 20 yards between the attacking 4 and the defending six. It meant a lot of ground for the two holding midfielders to cover. Probably an element of how quickly we were attacking. |
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Post by Nik on Nov 14, 2023 17:23:18 GMT 1
Being a bit of a misery, not sure I enjoyed the game as much as others, Frustrating that every time we went ahead we looked like conceding! Midfield seemed to go missing defensively second half. But that seemed to be due to the fact that we weren't sitting back on the lead. Entertaining though for the most part. I get that view (but we won so I'm enjoying it unreservedly). We're playing 4-4-2 basically, so it's going to be a lot more open, plus you've got a centre back who's brilliant but not mobile and then to my eyes Liam got tired after about 60 minutes. There were times when the whole six went forward together and left the back four with no protection. |
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Post by leftwinger on Nov 14, 2023 22:52:43 GMT 1
Apart from the match itself, the result of which was most welcome plus the excellent entertainment offered by the action involving both sides (including good attacking play and defensive frailties!), the disappointment for me was the size of the crowd in attendance at Nethermoor to see it. I have been told by one or two other fans that in the good (not so) old days, crowds attending matches at home were pushing 1000. I am unsure if this is true or exaggeration but, it made me think, bearing in mind the number at Saturday’s game was in the 500s. Obviously, when teams do better crowds go up and when they are struggling, they begin to plummet. Only, the ultra loyal and the diehards are ever-present. Thus, crowds in the National League or at a first round FA Cup match may well have been a LOT higher. This is true for all teams, although some have more diehards than others!
Since moving to live in Guiseley (although being closer to Nethermoor wasn’t the reason for choosing the location, though I had started attending home matches some years previously!) I have often asked a number of spectators who I happen to be talking to where they live. I have, thus far, to come across one who actually lives in Guiseley. (Maybe, I haven’t been talking to enough of them!) This got me thinking about how many in the local community actually come to watch the Lions. There must be football fans within the Guiseley community, but I wonder how many have ever given matches at Nethermoor a try.
Are eg free tickets given out to children interested in football in local primary schools? Do players (perhaps in pairs… for safety in numbers and to boost self-confidence!!) go in to visit these schools and talk to the children to talk up the local team and perhaps wave the flag for the Lions? (I am aware for part-timers-this might have to be carefully planned!) Is there ever a one-off offer given for locals to attend for a discount price? I don’t know the answer to these questions, but I never see other Lions’ fans making their way to the game when I set off walking to it down our street or back home afterwards, which I feel is a shame. They’re missing out and…so is the club!
It is good that fans support the team (many of them an awful lot longer than I have) from near or far. Yet, Guiseley AFC lies smack in the middle of the Guiseley community and it would be good, for many reasons to increase the number of supporters from within that local community. I am not suggesting reinvention of the wheel here and perhaps there have been numerous strategies tried in order to increase the fanbase in the past. But, it would be nice to increase the numbers coming from Guiseley itself. There are a lot of reasons why watching a local team, within walking distance, should be a viable and welcome choice when it comes to watching football. And, Guiseley AFC is a family-oriented club and prides itself on this. After all, I went to a game once…and then another…and I was ‘hooked!’ Hopefully, in the coming weeks and months, there will be more reasons for new people to be encouraged (of all ages) to come along to join those who already live in Guiseley and support their local side. The person who I spoke to on Saturday said, “Okay, it’s in the 500s, but it’s gradually improving.” Let’s hope he’s right!
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Post by andyhaines on Nov 15, 2023 10:35:44 GMT 1
Apart from the match itself, the result of which was most welcome plus the excellent entertainment offered by the action involving both sides (including good attacking play and defensive frailties!), the disappointment for me was the size of the crowd in attendance at Nethermoor to see it. I have been told by one or two other fans that in the good (not so) old days, crowds attending matches at home were pushing 1000. I am unsure if this is true or exaggeration but, it made me think, bearing in mind the number at Saturday’s game was in the 500s. Obviously, when teams do better crowds go up and when they are struggling, they begin to plummet. Only, the ultra loyal and the diehards are ever-present. Thus, crowds in the National League or at a first round FA Cup match may well have been a LOT higher. This is true for all teams, although some have more diehards than others! Since moving to live in Guiseley (although being closer to Nethermoor wasn’t the reason for choosing the location, though I had started attending home matches some years previously!) I have often asked a number of spectators who I happen to be talking to where they live. I have, thus far, to come across one who actually lives in Guiseley. (Maybe, I haven’t been talking to ones who do!) This got me thinking about how many in the local community actually come to watch the Lions. There must be football fans within the Guiseley community, but I wonder how many have ever given matches at Nethermoor a try. Are eg free tickets given out to children interested in football in local primary schools? Do players (perhaps in pairs… for safety in numbers and to boost self-confidence!!) go in to visit these schools and talk to the children to talk up the local team and perhaps wave the flag for the Lions? (I am aware for part-timers-this might have to be carefully planned!) Is there ever a one-off offer given for locals to attend for a discount price? I don’t know the answer to these questions, but I never see other Lions’ fans making their way to the game when I set off walking to it down our street or back home afterwards, which I feel is a shame. They’re missing out and…so is the club! It is good that fans support the team (many of them an awful lot longer than I have) from near, far or wherever. Yet, Guiseley AFC lies smack in the middle of the Guiseley community and it would be good, for many reasons to increase the number of supporters from within that local community. I am not suggesting reinvention of the wheel here and perhaps there have been numerous strategies tried in order to increase the fanbase. But, it would be nice to increase the numbers coming from Guiseley itself. There are a lot of reasons why watching a local team, within walking distance, should be a viable and welcome choice when it comes to watching football. And, Guiseley AFC is a family-oriented club and prides itself on this. Hopefully, in the coming weeks and months, there will be more reasons to encourage more people (of all ages) to come along to join those who already live in Guiseley and support their local side. The person who I spoke to on Saturday said, “Okay, it’s in the 500s, but it’s gradually improving.” Let’s hope he’s right! 1200-1500 was pretty common in the National League. I remember 2500 at the Fleetwood FA Cup game.. it was awful, glad I had my reserved seat! It dropped to 800 or so in the National League North and slipped a bit year on year, probably just due to what was on the pitch. I think we would see those sorts of numbers again if we are winning consistently. I hope that if the current run goes on it will draw in the crowds. The reality is that since the first season in the National League league, we've had a slow decline season on season and the crowds have dwindled with that. A run at the play-offs might just bring back a bit of optimism. |
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Post by leftwinger on Nov 15, 2023 10:45:22 GMT 1
Let’s hope so. I suppose we must be the ‘die-hards’ because I’d always go to support my team at home matches no matter how they were doing. Now, Saturday-when a match is on at Nethermoor- wouldn’t be the same without it for me!
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Post by Nik on Nov 15, 2023 11:09:57 GMT 1
It's tricky... I'm pretty die-hard but even I struggle to get enthusiastic about going to watch another defeat. The way we're playing now, though, can't wait for the next game.
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Post by guiseleyguile on Nov 15, 2023 17:26:39 GMT 1
Left winger - I am a Guiseleyite who lives within walking distance of Nethermoor and have made the return trip many times over last 50 + years. Remember averages if 900 or so but my observation is that these were always lower when Bradford City were at home - last week they and Leeds were both at home so that could have had an affect on our crowd.
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Post by leftwinger on Nov 15, 2023 17:46:11 GMT 1
Nice to meet a fellow Guisleyan or Guisleyite or…whatever! Yes, Leeds Utd or Bradford City home matches might well affect Nethermoor attendances but overall the numbers attending could surely be increased by more people in our local community attending games. (As you and I are doing-despite the lure of Valley Parade or Elland Road! ) I think non-league football is attractive and appealing as I assume you do, so why not for others? A previous poster claimed there were around 1500 at one time attending matches-maybe there were more locals back then (?!!)
And, the question following on is surely ‘How to persuade them to give it a try…or come back? And, the ultimate is to persuade more people to opt for a season ticket, which is priced very competitively indeed when compared to those other two clubs you mentioned. If they do this, Leeds/ Bradford City at home won’t affect attendances so much. I don’t get your point re: “Remember averages..etc”. If you mean the average Nethermoor crowd over a season, I shouldn’t have thought (now) it’s much more than the 500+ present on Saturday, (but I am open to factual correction.)
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