Danny Ellis

[shuby123]

Am I missing something but where is the logic in re appointing Russ Oneill albeit not in a managerial role. The guy got the club relegated ffs…Don’t even think his recruitment during his tenure here was anything special anyway.

[ivor]

Results were poor with Russ and Marcus. Recruitment: Martin, Mbeka, Ekpolo, Cantrill, JJ, Hamza. Loan keepers: Dewhurst, Wade, Mason. Some good work

[mrsann]

Ok recruitment might have been good which can only point to bad man and football managing skills going on results.

[chris1803]

Nov 23, 2022 22:14:25 GMT 1 ivor said:

Results were poor with Russ and Marcus. Recruitment: Martin, Mbeka, Ekpolo, Cantrill, JJ, Hamza. Loan keepers: Dewhurst, Wade, Mason. Some good work

Beyond those though, it's difficult to come up many more who've been brilliant signings.

We've had those like Jordan Thewlis and John Johnston who we've brought in and actually sold for an income, but neither were any better than average for us on the pitch.

[tonyhaz]

Struggling to take on board Douglas’ statement. Up until 05/11 we were 7 games unbeaten. That was broken by a decent WTFC who we were more than the equal of on Saturday. Given that pre-season we only had two players signed on it has to be accepted that the development of a squad is an evolution process which does not happen over night. O’Neill was brought into support Dan and there is now a squad of Trennery; Damba. Boeteng, Emery; Ible; Harris; Smith; Chippendale; Daly; Kellett; Dean; Ackroyd; Hartley; Chippendale; Walker; Whitman; Haw; Cassidy; Qasim + out loans + academy to work with. I feel that we now have a squad which is more than sufficient to at least consolidate this season with the potential to match the aspiration of all of us for promotion in the near future. It is a shame that Gary and his cronies did not give Danny the opportunity within the club structure (that they have created) to work with and achieve this…

[colin19]

I’m so disappointed that we are where we are after the new dawn in the summer.

However I don’t want to make myself unpopular but I am a bit confused by the focus on Russ O’Neill on here.

Russ’s contacts and know how brought some good players to the club and actually having him back in a role that he seems to enjoy and working to find us players is a real positive. From all I’ve read in the statement it’s a response that aimed to quell the accusations that had been made that Russ wanted the job. I think those comments were really unfair and unfounded supposition. I actually think he’s been really hard done to - it’s the directors who made the decision.

I agree that on the surface it seemed a crazy decision to sack Danny Ellis and such a terrible shame that it has come to this.

However it seems to be a unanimous decision and while not based on results or a specific breach there is obviously a problem that hasn’t been resolvable - but perhaps we will never (or can never), know the specifics.

I’m also uncomfortable at comments that are lashing out at the Directors. They are hardly fat cats fleecing the club or running it for ego. Quite the opposite. It’s hard to argue that they have had anything other than the clubs best interests at heart. No one is perfect and I’m sure they have flaws like us all. However you can’t argue that they are in it for the long term. They have all been here for years and no doubt have kept, and continue to, put money into the club that they will never see back. At this level there is absolutely no financial return. I doubt prospective new investors are lining up at the door (and if they were could you trust them to care as much?). I think you can always disagree and challenge decisions made but I don’t think it should get personal. You could never accuse them of self interest.

One person we are not talking about is Danny F. He has been asked to step up and will take the team on Saturday with Martin Foster. This must have been really tough week for him. The two Danny’s are good friends and I recall him saying that working together was a big part of the appeal. This will be the last thing he would have wanted to happen.

I think he’s got a thankless task on Saturday against Liversedge with all the change this week. The players will have to put in a big shift for him. We definitely need to get behind him.

[joshbgafc1]

Nov 24, 2022 0:37:52 GMT 1 colin19 said:

I’m so disappointed that we are where we are after the new dawn in the summer.

However I don’t want to make myself unpopular but I am a bit confused by the focus on Russ O’Neill on here.

Russ’s contacts and know how brought some good players to the club and actually having him back in a role that he seems to enjoy and working to find us players is a real positive. From all I’ve read in the statement it’s a response that aimed to quell the accusations that had been made that Russ wanted the job. I think those comments were really unfair and unfounded supposition. I actually think he’s been really hard done to - it’s the directors who made the decision.

I agree that on the surface it seemed a crazy decision to sack Danny Ellis and such a terrible shame that it has come to this.

However it seems to be a unanimous decision and while not based on results or a specific breach there is obviously a problem that hasn’t been resolvable - but perhaps we will never (or can never), know the specifics.

I’m also uncomfortable at comments that are lashing out at the Directors. They are hardly fat cats fleecing the club or running it for ego. Quite the opposite. It’s hard to argue that they have had anything other than the clubs best interests at heart. No one is perfect and I’m sure they have flaws like us all. However you can’t argue that they are in it for the long term. They have all been here for years and no doubt have kept, and continue to, put money into the club that they will never see back. At this level there is absolutely no financial return. I doubt prospective new investors are lining up at the door (and if they were could you trust them to care as much?). I think you can always disagree and challenge decisions made but I don’t think it should get personal. You could never accuse them of self interest.

One person we are not talking about is Danny F. He has been asked to step up and will take the team on Saturday with Martin Foster. This must have been really tough week for him. The two Danny’s are good friends and I recall him saying that working together was a big part of the appeal. This will be the last thing he would have wanted to happen.

I think he’s got a thankless task on Saturday against Liversedge with all the change this week. The players will have to put in a big shift for him. We definitely need to get behind him.

Agree with this, russ is a great recruiter (we don’t need to list many of the hidden talents he’s brought in) and he’s had no effect on Danny leaving. He won’t be taking the managerial job so the criticism on him after bringing in some pretty decent players since he’s joined back is unjust. A lot of The players the managers recruited early in the season have since left, which suggests they did make a few mistakes. However since russ has come in, we have seen the arrivals of Qasim, Mbeka, Whitham, ackroyd and quite a few more… all players we rate quite highly… as Colin said, we need to get behind the lads on Saturday as it won’t be easy, but it’s also a must win game!

[bigj]

Well said Colin19 and whatever the reasons for Danny's departure life goes on and we have an interim manager who was at Silsden for a good few years and where his sides always played good football. Danny F will also know that sometimes you have to put friendships to one side in this crazy world of football and I'm sure he will be the consumate professional on Saturday as he already knows his players (unless of course we've sold any in the interim!)

[danmartin]

Russ and Marcus did bring in some good quality players, particularly in the early days. The problem seemed to be that they were all based down in the midlands, which isn't great for a Yorkshire club. I've no problem with Russ being at the club in any capacity. I don't know how the duties were split with Marcus anyway, so I don't think we can say it would be just like last year if he were to take charge.

It seems like maybe the board are expecting a level of effort and commitment that Danny Ellis cannot or will not provide. Whether what they are asking is reasonable or not, I don't know, but they've been decisive here and, given Danny's status and how long they gave the previous management, they must have had good reasons.

I hope now that Danny F gets a good go at the job and gets the team performing to a good standard. We know if they can get the best 11 players on the pitch for a run of games there's a good team there.

[netherfieldlion]

Nov 24, 2022 0:37:52 GMT 1 colin19 said:

I’m so disappointed that we are where we are after the new dawn in the summer.

However I don’t want to make myself unpopular but I am a bit confused by the focus on Russ O’Neill on here.

Russ’s contacts and know how brought some good players to the club and actually having him back in a role that he seems to enjoy and working to find us players is a real positive. From all I’ve read in the statement it’s a response that aimed to quell the accusations that had been made that Russ wanted the job. I think those comments were really unfair and unfounded supposition. I actually think he’s been really hard done to - it’s the directors who made the decision.

I agree that on the surface it seemed a crazy decision to sack Danny Ellis and such a terrible shame that it has come to this.

However it seems to be a unanimous decision and while not based on results or a specific breach there is obviously a problem that hasn’t been resolvable - but perhaps we will never (or can never), know the specifics.

I’m also uncomfortable at comments that are lashing out at the Directors. They are hardly fat cats fleecing the club or running it for ego. Quite the opposite. It’s hard to argue that they have had anything other than the clubs best interests at heart. No one is perfect and I’m sure they have flaws like us all. However you can’t argue that they are in it for the long term. They have all been here for years and no doubt have kept, and continue to, put money into the club that they will never see back. At this level there is absolutely no financial return. I doubt prospective new investors are lining up at the door (and if they were could you trust them to care as much?). I think you can always disagree and challenge decisions made but I don’t think it should get personal. You could never accuse them of self interest.

One person we are not talking about is Danny F. He has been asked to step up and will take the team on Saturday with Martin Foster. This must have been really tough week for him. The two Danny’s are good friends and I recall him saying that working together was a big part of the appeal. This will be the last thing he would have wanted to happen.

I think he’s got a thankless task on Saturday against Liversedge with all the change this week. The players will have to put in a big shift for him. We definitely need to get behind him.

I agree it’s time to get behind the boys and for calm heads on and off the field on Saturday.

Supporters have let the Board know in no uncertain terms what they think of the decision. Sadly they are not going to change it.

The process of rebuilding trust begins.

Let’s make sure all the talk come 5pm Saturday is about what happened on the field. The club have had enough bad publicity for one week. We don’t need any more.

In Danny F We Trust

[Nik]

Nov 24, 2022 1:53:45 GMT 1 bigj said:

Well said Colin19 and whatever the reasons for Danny's departure life goes on and we have an interim manager who was at Silsden for a good few years and where his sides always played good football. Danny F will also know that sometimes you have to put friendships to one side in this crazy world of football and I'm sure he will be the consumate professional on Saturday as he already knows his players (unless of course we've sold any in the interim!)

I think that if in a parallel universe we'd had Danny F and Martin F at the start of the season, we would have been pretty happy to see how that played out. One has successful management experience lower, the other has been assistant managing at this level recently. I hope the players and fans give them a chance despite what's gone on before.

[troll]

Nov 23, 2022 22:14:25 GMT 1 ivor said:

Results were poor with Russ and Marcus. Recruitment: Martin, Mbeka, Ekpolo, Cantrill, JJ, Hamza. Loan keepers: Dewhurst, Wade, Mason. Some good work

Looking at these half dozen outfield players recruited to play NLN:
Two now play below that level
One is at a club anchored to the bottom of NLN
One can't get a game at his NLN club without there being an injury crisis

And, for any good recruitment, you could always flip the coin and find Heaton, Barkers, Day, Tuton, Wafula, Gratton...

[ivor]

Nov 24, 2022 13:20:18 GMT 1 troll said:

Nov 23, 2022 22:14:25 GMT 1 ivor said:

Results were poor with Russ and Marcus. Recruitment: Martin, Mbeka, Ekpolo, Cantrill, JJ, Hamza. Loan keepers: Dewhurst, Wade, Mason. Some good work

Looking at these half dozen outfield players recruited to play NLN:
Two now play below that level
One is at a club anchored to the bottom of NLN
One can't get a game at his NLN club without there being an injury crisis

And, for any good recruitment, you could always flip the coin and find Heaton, Barkers, Day, Tuton, Wafula, Gratton...

But they were good players for us ...

[bigj]

Niall Heaton was playing for Emley AFC when I went to watch them a couple of weeks ago as was Wally (James Walshaw). Didn't Shaun Tutton sign for Matlock or was it Alfreton?

[tugger18]

Would it be a good idea to show Danny Ellis our appreciation on the 5 minute mark on Saturday then again at the next home game.